Mars’s Ancient Rock: A 4-Billion-Year-Old Clue to the Red Planet’s Past
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Mars’s Ancient Rock: A 4-Billion-Year-Old Clue to the Red Planet’s Past

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Show notes A rose-coloured rock picked up in the Sahara in 2022 turns out to be one of the oldest pieces of Mars ever found. Teghaza 001 formed at least 4.1 billion years ago, and two independent radiometric clocks agree. We explain how it was dated, what it says about early Mars losing its water, and why its source is still a shortlist of 13 craters in the southern highlands. Also: Voyager 1 goes silent for two days and recovers on its own as it nears one light-day from Earth on 18 November; Hubble finally sees the 'Cat's Tail' of Beta Pictoris, the wreckage of a collision between two Pluto-sized worlds; two Halloween ghosts in the Carina Nebula; and quick hits on the 100th US spacewalk from the ISS, Reid Wiseman's move to JPL, Swift and Starship. Skywatch: US clocks go back on 1 November, Saturn in the evening, Venus returns to the morning sky, Mars and Jupiter close in, the Moon passes Pollux, Mars, Jupiter and Regulus, the Southern Taurids, and Carina for southern observers.

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00:00:00 --> 00:00:03 Anna: Hello everyone. Let's get stuck into today's

00:00:03 --> 00:00:06 space and astronomy news. Somewhere in The

00:00:06 --> 00:00:09 Zaharov in 2022 prospectors

00:00:09 --> 00:00:11 picked up a pinkish rock a little lighter

00:00:11 --> 00:00:14 than a bag of sugar. This week we learned

00:00:14 --> 00:00:17 it is more than 4.1 billion years old

00:00:17 --> 00:00:19 and it came from Mars.

00:00:19 --> 00:00:22 Avery: And a little Further out, Voyager 1 went

00:00:22 --> 00:00:25 silent for two days, came back on its own

00:00:25 --> 00:00:27 and is three weeks from a distance that takes

00:00:27 --> 00:00:29 light a full day to cross.

00:00:29 --> 00:00:32 Anna: Plus the wreckage of a collision between two

00:00:32 --> 00:00:35 worlds the size of Pluto. Two

00:00:35 --> 00:00:37 ghosts in the southern sky just in time for

00:00:37 --> 00:00:40 Halloween. And a, uh, solar array unrolled

00:00:40 --> 00:00:43 by a Canadian on his first ever space mock.

00:00:44 --> 00:00:46 I'm Avery. And I'm Anna.

00:00:46 --> 00:00:48 This is Astronomy daily for Friday

00:00:49 --> 00:00:51 30th October 2026.

00:00:51 --> 00:00:52 Let's get into it.

00:00:53 --> 00:00:55 Avery: You lead off then, Anna, tell me about this

00:00:55 --> 00:00:56 rock from Mars.

00:00:56 --> 00:00:59 Anna: Let's start with the rock itself because it

00:00:59 --> 00:01:01 does not look like much. It's called

00:01:01 --> 00:01:04 Tagaza 001, after the salt

00:01:04 --> 00:01:07 plain in Mali where it turned up. Tahari

00:01:07 --> 00:01:09 prospectors found it in September 2022.

00:01:10 --> 00:01:12 It's rose coloured, it weighs about 800

00:01:12 --> 00:01:15 grammes and for a while nobody knew what it

00:01:15 --> 00:01:17 was or how old it was.

00:01:18 --> 00:01:21 Avery: So how do you even know a rock in the desert

00:01:21 --> 00:01:22 came from Mars?

00:01:23 --> 00:01:26 Anna: Oxygen isotopes. Every rocky

00:01:26 --> 00:01:28 body in the solar system carries its own

00:01:28 --> 00:01:30 ratio of the three oxygen isotopes,

00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 almost like a postcode. Scientists

00:01:33 --> 00:01:36 at the University of New Mexico's Institute

00:01:36 --> 00:01:38 of Meteoritics checked Tegazot against other

00:01:38 --> 00:01:41 Martian meteorites and it matched.

00:01:41 --> 00:01:44 At that point it looked like a shergottite,

00:01:44 --> 00:01:46 which is the most common kind of Martian

00:01:46 --> 00:01:49 meteorite and frankly the least exciting.

00:01:50 --> 00:01:52 There are roughly 435 Meteorites

00:01:52 --> 00:01:55 from Mars known, and most of them formed

00:01:55 --> 00:01:57 within the last couple of billion years.

00:01:58 --> 00:01:59 Avery: So what changed?

00:02:00 --> 00:02:02 Anna: Yang liu at, uh, NASA's Jet Propulsion

00:02:02 --> 00:02:05 Laboratory nearly passed on it. She'd seen

00:02:05 --> 00:02:07 plenty of srgaiolites. She looked anyway,

00:02:08 --> 00:02:10 saw textures and minerals she didn't

00:02:10 --> 00:02:12 recognise and then found zircons.

00:02:13 --> 00:02:16 Avery: Before we get to the clocks, how does a

00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 rock from Mars end up in a desert on Earth at

00:02:19 --> 00:02:19 all?

00:02:20 --> 00:02:22 Anna: Every Martian meteorite has the same

00:02:23 --> 00:02:26 A large impact on Mars blasts material off

00:02:26 --> 00:02:27 the surface fast enough to escape the

00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 planet's gravity. Those fragments then orbit

00:02:30 --> 00:02:32 the sun, sometimes for millions of years,

00:02:33 --> 00:02:35 until one happens to cross Earth's path and

00:02:35 --> 00:02:38 fall. Deserts, uh, are where we find them

00:02:38 --> 00:02:41 because a dark stone on pale sand or ice

00:02:41 --> 00:02:44 stands out and in a dry climate it doesn't

00:02:44 --> 00:02:46 rust away quickly. That's why so many come

00:02:46 --> 00:02:49 from the Zaharov and from Antarctica.

00:02:49 --> 00:02:52 Avery: So the launch, the journey and the landing

00:02:52 --> 00:02:54 all wipe out the context.

00:02:54 --> 00:02:57 Anna: Exactly. And that's the frustration with

00:02:57 --> 00:02:57 meteorites.

00:02:57 --> 00:03:00 You get a real sample of another planet, but

00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 no label. Seeing where it came from. The rock

00:03:03 --> 00:03:05 has to tell you its own story.

00:03:05 --> 00:03:08 Avery: Zircons are the geologists favourite clock.

00:03:08 --> 00:03:08 Right?

00:03:09 --> 00:03:12 Anna: They are. A zircon crystal takes in a

00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 little uranium when it forms and almost no

00:03:14 --> 00:03:17 lead. Uranium decays into lead at a rate

00:03:17 --> 00:03:20 we know very precisely. So the ratio

00:03:20 --> 00:03:23 of lead to uranium inside the crystal tells

00:03:23 --> 00:03:25 you how long it's been ticking. The team

00:03:25 --> 00:03:28 measured 10 zircon ages and their weighted

00:03:28 --> 00:03:30 average came out at 4

00:03:30 --> 00:03:33 million years, plus or minus 14 million.

00:03:33 --> 00:03:35 Avery: And they checked it a second way.

00:03:35 --> 00:03:38 Anna: That's the part I like. Francois Thiseau's

00:03:38 --> 00:03:40 lab at Caltech has a technique for rubidium

00:03:40 --> 00:03:43 strontium dating that works in place on

00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 individual mineral grains on the surface of a

00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 fragment smaller than a fingernail. You don't

00:03:48 --> 00:03:50 have to dissolve the sample, which matters

00:03:50 --> 00:03:52 when you only have 800 grammes of ancient

00:03:52 --> 00:03:55 Mars. Two completely independent clocks,

00:03:55 --> 00:03:58 uranium lead and rubidium strontium, gave

00:03:58 --> 00:03:59 the same age.

00:04:00 --> 00:04:03 Avery: Two, um, clocks agreeing is a lot more

00:04:03 --> 00:04:04 convincing than one.

00:04:04 --> 00:04:07 Anna: It is. And here's the subtle bit.

00:04:07 --> 00:04:10 The minerals record that water altered this

00:04:10 --> 00:04:12 rock around 4.1 billion years ago.

00:04:13 --> 00:04:15 You can't alter a rock that doesn't exist

00:04:15 --> 00:04:18 yet. So the rock itself formed at

00:04:18 --> 00:04:21 least that long ago and possibly earlier. The

00:04:21 --> 00:04:23 paper's title says it formed at or before

00:04:23 --> 00:04:25 4.1 billion years. That little

00:04:26 --> 00:04:28 ore before is doing real work.

00:04:29 --> 00:04:32 Avery: We do have other very old Martian

00:04:32 --> 00:04:33 meteorites, though,

00:04:33 --> 00:04:35 Anna: two that people usually

00:04:36 --> 00:04:38 ALH84001,

00:04:39 --> 00:04:41 the Antarctic one, made of almost a single

00:04:41 --> 00:04:43 mineral, which is similar in age. And

00:04:43 --> 00:04:46 NWA 7034, nicknamed

00:04:46 --> 00:04:49 Black Beauty, which contains very old

00:04:49 --> 00:04:51 fragments, but was assembled into the rock we

00:04:51 --> 00:04:54 have much later. Tegaza is different.

00:04:54 --> 00:04:57 It's a, uh, slowly cooled igneous rock,

00:04:57 --> 00:04:59 a piece of crust that crystallised from

00:04:59 --> 00:05:01 magma, which, with a mix of minerals that

00:05:01 --> 00:05:04 tells you about both the early crust and the

00:05:04 --> 00:05:07 mantle it came from. The New Mexico team

00:05:07 --> 00:05:09 calls it the oldest known Martian lava rock.

00:05:10 --> 00:05:12 NASA's own phrasing is one of the oldest

00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 Martian meteorites ever found.

00:05:14 --> 00:05:16 And I think that careful version is the right

00:05:16 --> 00:05:17 one.

00:05:17 --> 00:05:19 Avery: Do we know where on Mars it came from?

00:05:20 --> 00:05:23 Anna: Not exactly, and the team is upfront about

00:05:23 --> 00:05:26 that. They compared the rock's chemistry with

00:05:26 --> 00:05:28 what orbiters like Mars Reconnaissance

00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 Orbiter see from above and. And the best

00:05:30 --> 00:05:32 matches are in the Cratered southern

00:05:32 --> 00:05:35 highlands, some of the oldest terrain on the

00:05:35 --> 00:05:38 planet. They list 13 candidate locations.

00:05:38 --> 00:05:40 That's a short list, not an address.

00:05:41 --> 00:05:43 Avery: And there's a Southern Hemisphere thread to

00:05:43 --> 00:05:44 the address finding, isn't there?

00:05:45 --> 00:05:48 Anna: There is. Matching a meteorite to its launch

00:05:48 --> 00:05:50 crater has partly been an Australian

00:05:50 --> 00:05:53 specialty. In 2022, a Curtin

00:05:53 --> 00:05:56 University team in Perth traced Black Beauty

00:05:56 --> 00:05:59 to a crater on Mars they named Karatha after

00:05:59 --> 00:06:01 the Pilbara town. So when we eventually get

00:06:01 --> 00:06:04 an address for Tagaza, that's the kind of

00:06:04 --> 00:06:05 work that will find it.

00:06:06 --> 00:06:08 Avery: What does the Reviewer comment in NASA's

00:06:08 --> 00:06:09 release? Say again,

00:06:10 --> 00:06:12 Anna: Lu said one of the paper's reviewers called

00:06:12 --> 00:06:14 it a Rosetta Stone for Mars.

00:06:14 --> 00:06:17 Lee Saper, the second author now at NASA

00:06:17 --> 00:06:20 Ames, put it more plainly. It's the first

00:06:20 --> 00:06:22 piece of Martian crust from a part of Mars

00:06:22 --> 00:06:23 we've never had a sample of before.

00:06:24 --> 00:06:26 Avery: And there's a water story underneath this.

00:06:27 --> 00:06:30 Anna: There is an earlier paper from the same team

00:06:30 --> 00:06:32 this year looked at the hydrogen trapped in

00:06:32 --> 00:06:35 Telegaza, and it suggests Mars

00:06:35 --> 00:06:36 was already well on the way to losing its

00:06:36 --> 00:06:39 water more than 4 billion years ago.

00:06:39 --> 00:06:42 So the planet's dry out wasn't a late event.

00:06:42 --> 00:06:44 It was underway while this rock was young.

00:06:44 --> 00:06:47 Avery: Put that in context for us. How old is

00:06:47 --> 00:06:48 Mars itself? Uh,

00:06:49 --> 00:06:51 Anna: Mars, like Earth, formed about four and a

00:06:51 --> 00:06:54 half billion years ago. So Tegaza

00:06:54 --> 00:06:56 crystallised when the planet was only a few

00:06:56 --> 00:06:59 hundred million years old. That's the era

00:06:59 --> 00:07:02 geologists call the Noachian, when Mars

00:07:02 --> 00:07:05 had rivers and lakes and probably a thicker

00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 atmosphere. Mars also had a global

00:07:08 --> 00:07:10 magnetic field early on, which helped shield

00:07:10 --> 00:07:13 its atmosphere from the solar wind. And that

00:07:13 --> 00:07:16 field is thought to have faded around 3.9

00:07:16 --> 00:07:18 billion years ago. What this rock

00:07:18 --> 00:07:21 adds is that water loss was already happening

00:07:21 --> 00:07:24 before that by 4.1 billion years ago.

00:07:24 --> 00:07:26 Avery: And, um, the rock's chemistry is unusual in

00:07:26 --> 00:07:27 other ways, too.

00:07:28 --> 00:07:31 Anna: It is. The paper reports trace

00:07:31 --> 00:07:33 elements more abundant than in any other

00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 igneous Martian meteorite, except black

00:07:36 --> 00:07:39 beauty and a mantle source different from the

00:07:39 --> 00:07:41 ones that made the other meteorites. So it

00:07:41 --> 00:07:44 isn't just old. It's sampling a part of

00:07:44 --> 00:07:46 Mars's interior we hadn't seen before.

00:07:47 --> 00:07:48 That's exactly what you'd hope to compare

00:07:48 --> 00:07:51 with samples a rover might one day collect.

00:07:51 --> 00:07:53 So honest caveats

00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 Avery: 3. First, the age was first

00:07:56 --> 00:07:58 shown publicly at the Goldschmidt

00:07:58 --> 00:08:00 Geochemistry Conference in Montreal in July

00:08:01 --> 00:08:03 and was covered then. What's new this week

00:08:03 --> 00:08:06 is the full peer reviewed paper in Science

00:08:06 --> 00:08:08 published Thursday. Second, uh, the

00:08:08 --> 00:08:11 source location is a list of candidates not

00:08:11 --> 00:08:14 an identification. Third, one

00:08:14 --> 00:08:17 rock is one rock. It tells us about one

00:08:17 --> 00:08:19 patch of ancient crust, not all of early

00:08:19 --> 00:08:20 Mars.

00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 Anna: Still, a piece of Mars from when the solar

00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 system was barely half a billion years old,

00:08:26 --> 00:08:28 picked up off the ground in the Zaharov

00:08:29 --> 00:08:32 Avery: and dated with two clocks on a chip smaller

00:08:32 --> 00:08:33 than your fingernail.

00:08:33 --> 00:08:34 Liu's line was, uh, that they've only

00:08:34 --> 00:08:37 scratched the surface, given how small the

00:08:37 --> 00:08:39 chip was. I think that's literally true.

00:08:39 --> 00:08:42 Anna: From the oldest rock to the most distant

00:08:42 --> 00:08:45 machine. On 18 October,

00:08:45 --> 00:08:48 NASA's Deep Space Network tried to hear

00:08:48 --> 00:08:50 Voyager 1 and got nothing. They

00:08:50 --> 00:08:53 tried again 24 hours later, still

00:08:53 --> 00:08:54 nothing.

00:08:54 --> 00:08:56 Avery: That must have been a long weekend at JPL.

00:08:57 --> 00:09:00 Anna: It came back on its own on the 20th, before

00:09:00 --> 00:09:03 the team had even sent a command. What

00:09:03 --> 00:09:05 they've found so far is that one group of

00:09:05 --> 00:09:07 thrusters went offline and the backups took

00:09:07 --> 00:09:10 over automatically. Decks fault protection

00:09:10 --> 00:09:12 doing its job. The spacecraft spots something

00:09:12 --> 00:09:15 wrong, switches to a safe configuration,

00:09:16 --> 00:09:18 pauses normal work and waits for the humans.

00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 Avery: Do they know what caused it?

00:09:20 --> 00:09:23 Anna: Not yet. Mission manager Karim

00:09:23 --> 00:09:25 Badarradin said it's the first time they've

00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 seen the spacecraft do this. But at this

00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 point in the mission, they have to expect the

00:09:30 --> 00:09:30 unexpected.

00:09:31 --> 00:09:33 Avery: And, um, there was a power story too.

00:09:33 --> 00:09:36 Anna: Yes. The Voyagers run on plutonium

00:09:36 --> 00:09:39 generators that lose about 4 watts a year.

00:09:39 --> 00:09:42 In early September, the team pulled off

00:09:42 --> 00:09:44 something they nicknamed the Big Bang. They

00:09:44 --> 00:09:47 switched off three devices and switched on

00:09:47 --> 00:09:49 three lower power substitutes at the same

00:09:49 --> 00:09:52 time. Those devices keep the spacecraft

00:09:52 --> 00:09:54 warm, so they had to swap all three together

00:09:54 --> 00:09:57 to cut power and still keep heat where it

00:09:57 --> 00:09:59 needs to be. They'd done the same on Voyager

00:09:59 --> 00:10:02 2 about six weeks earlier. Without it,

00:10:02 --> 00:10:05 Voyager 1 would have had to turn off another

00:10:05 --> 00:10:07 science instrument as early as the middle of

00:10:07 --> 00:10:08 2027.

00:10:08 --> 00:10:10 Avery: And now the milestone

00:10:11 --> 00:10:14 on the 18th of November, Voyager 1 will

00:10:14 --> 00:10:17 be about 25.9 billion kilometres

00:10:17 --> 00:10:20 away. That's one light day.

00:10:21 --> 00:10:23 A radio command takes 24 hours to get there,

00:10:23 --> 00:10:25 and the reply takes another 24.

00:10:26 --> 00:10:29 Project manager Suzanne Dodd put it nicely.

00:10:29 --> 00:10:32 You say hello, go home and wait

00:10:32 --> 00:10:35 two days for the answer. Remind us where

00:10:35 --> 00:10:36 it actually is now.

00:10:37 --> 00:10:40 Anna: Voyager 1 crossed the heliopause, the

00:10:40 --> 00:10:42 edge of the bubble. The sun's wind blows

00:10:42 --> 00:10:45 around the solar system in 2012. Since

00:10:45 --> 00:10:47 then, it's been measuring interstellar space

00:10:47 --> 00:10:50 directly. Voyager 2 followed in 2018.

00:10:50 --> 00:10:52 They're the only spacecraft ever to do that,

00:10:52 --> 00:10:55 which is why every watt matters so much.

00:10:55 --> 00:10:58 Avery: Nothing changes on board when it

00:10:58 --> 00:10:59 crosses that line.

00:11:00 --> 00:11:02 Anna: No, NASA is clear about that.

00:11:02 --> 00:11:05 It's a milestone about scale not physics.

00:11:06 --> 00:11:09 It's moving at about 61 kilometres an

00:11:09 --> 00:11:11 hour. Launched in 1977

00:11:11 --> 00:11:14 and still sending data from interstellar

00:11:14 --> 00:11:14 space.

00:11:15 --> 00:11:17 Avery: And for our listeners in Australia, the

00:11:17 --> 00:11:20 dishes listening for it include Canberra's at

00:11:20 --> 00:11:21 uh, Tidbin Villa.

00:11:22 --> 00:11:24 Anna: That's right, Voyager 1 is in the

00:11:24 --> 00:11:27 northern sky, but it's still high enough for

00:11:27 --> 00:11:29 all three Deep Space Network complexes

00:11:30 --> 00:11:32 Goldstone, Madrid and Canberra.

00:11:33 --> 00:11:35 Voyager 2 heading south, can only be

00:11:35 --> 00:11:38 commanded from Canberra. So when either

00:11:38 --> 00:11:40 Voyager says hello, there's a good chance

00:11:40 --> 00:11:42 it's an Australian dish that hears it.

00:11:43 --> 00:11:46 Avery: 63 light years away, in the small

00:11:46 --> 00:11:49 southern constellation Pictor, the Painter's

00:11:49 --> 00:11:52 Easel, there's a uh, young star called Beta

00:11:52 --> 00:11:55 Pictoris. It's only around 20

00:11:55 --> 00:11:57 million years old and it's surrounded by a

00:11:57 --> 00:12:00 disc of dust and debris that we see edge on.

00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 Think of it as a model of our own solar

00:12:03 --> 00:12:04 system when it was still messy.

00:12:05 --> 00:12:06 Anna: And it has a tail,

00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 Avery: a dark streak of dust nicknamed the Cat's

00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 Tail. Webb found it in mid infrared

00:12:12 --> 00:12:14 light in 2024. The

00:12:14 --> 00:12:17 puzzle has been that it just wouldn't show up

00:12:17 --> 00:12:20 at visible wavelength. Now a team led

00:12:20 --> 00:12:23 by Aaron Afzarai, a ah, doctoral student at

00:12:23 --> 00:12:25 the University of Arizona, has found it with

00:12:25 --> 00:12:28 Hubble by stacking six sets of

00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 observations from 2012 to 2025

00:12:30 --> 00:12:31 M.

00:12:31 --> 00:12:33 Anna: Why was it so hard to see?

00:12:33 --> 00:12:36 Avery: Because of what it's made of. The dust

00:12:36 --> 00:12:38 is almost entirely what's called

00:12:38 --> 00:12:41 organic refractory material. Long

00:12:41 --> 00:12:44 chains of carbon that absorb visible light.

00:12:44 --> 00:12:47 So it's very dark and the grains

00:12:47 --> 00:12:50 are tiny, micron sized

00:12:50 --> 00:12:53 and extremely porous. Fluffy

00:12:53 --> 00:12:53 basically.

00:12:54 --> 00:12:55 Anna: And the collision?

00:12:56 --> 00:12:58 Avery: The team asked how much rock you'd have to

00:12:58 --> 00:13:01 destroy to make that much organic dust.

00:13:02 --> 00:13:05 Using the organic content of dwarf planets in

00:13:05 --> 00:13:08 our own solar system as a guide, each of the

00:13:08 --> 00:13:11 colliding bodies would need at least 1 to

00:13:11 --> 00:13:13 3 times 10 to the 21

00:13:13 --> 00:13:16 kilogrammes. That's about the Mass of Charon

00:13:16 --> 00:13:18 or Makemaker.

00:13:18 --> 00:13:21 Two small worlds destroyed in one collision.

00:13:21 --> 00:13:24 Anna: Which ties neatly to Wednesday's dwarf planet

00:13:24 --> 00:13:25 candidate from Rubin.

00:13:25 --> 00:13:28 Avery: It does. We're finding the survivors in our

00:13:28 --> 00:13:31 own Kuiper Belt and watching the casualties

00:13:31 --> 00:13:34 around another star. The tail is about a uh,

00:13:34 --> 00:13:37 thousand astronomical units long and

00:13:37 --> 00:13:39 the new modelling suggests it lies roughly

00:13:39 --> 00:13:41 sideways in our view rather than stretching

00:13:41 --> 00:13:44 away behind the star. Hubble

00:13:44 --> 00:13:47 also found a warp in the outer dust halo,

00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 probably from the giant planet Beta

00:13:49 --> 00:13:51 pycbut 10 times Jupiter's

00:13:51 --> 00:13:52 mass.

00:13:53 --> 00:13:53 Anna: Caveats.

00:13:54 --> 00:13:57 Avery: The mass estimate leans on an assumption that

00:13:57 --> 00:13:59 these bodies were made like our dwarf

00:13:59 --> 00:14:02 planets. And nobody can yet explain how

00:14:02 --> 00:14:05 grains get that porous. Co author Kevin

00:14:05 --> 00:14:07 Wagner suggests the impact may have vaporised

00:14:07 --> 00:14:10 the carbon and let it recondense. But that's

00:14:10 --> 00:14:12 a suggestion also for transparency.

00:14:13 --> 00:14:15 The paper was published in Astrophysical

00:14:15 --> 00:14:17 journal letters on the 7th of October. The

00:14:17 --> 00:14:19 university's release came this week.

00:14:20 --> 00:14:21 Anna: And it's one for the south,

00:14:21 --> 00:14:22 Avery: very much.

00:14:23 --> 00:14:25 From Sydney, Beta Pictoris climbs about

00:14:25 --> 00:14:28 73 degrees. From Los Angeles

00:14:28 --> 00:14:31 barely clears 5. And from New York or

00:14:31 --> 00:14:33 London it never rises at all.

00:14:34 --> 00:14:36 Anna: Beadhost Avery.

00:14:37 --> 00:14:38 228 words.

00:14:39 --> 00:14:40


00:14:40 --> 00:14:43 Avery: with Halloween tomorrow. NASA has

00:14:43 --> 00:14:46 released two spooky images, both from

00:14:46 --> 00:14:48 the Carina Nebula, about

00:14:48 --> 00:14:49 7 light years away.

00:14:50 --> 00:14:51 Anna: Ghost number one

00:14:51 --> 00:14:54 Avery: from Chandra and Webb. A lone

00:14:54 --> 00:14:57 cloud of gas and dust with a glowing

00:14:57 --> 00:15:00 hooded head and a long cape like tail.

00:15:01 --> 00:15:03 Astronomers call shapes like this cometary

00:15:03 --> 00:15:06 globules, though they have nothing to do with

00:15:06 --> 00:15:09 comets. The pink dots in Chandra's X ray data

00:15:09 --> 00:15:12 are young stars. So this ghost is a

00:15:12 --> 00:15:14 nursery. Its shape probably comes from

00:15:14 --> 00:15:17 radiation from massive stars outside the

00:15:17 --> 00:15:19 frame, including Eta Carinae

00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 and number zero, the Cat's Head Nebula

00:15:23 --> 00:15:26 from Hubble and Webb together, it's a

00:15:26 --> 00:15:29 dark dust pillar shaped like a cat,

00:15:29 --> 00:15:31 sitting with its back to us, head turned to

00:15:31 --> 00:15:34 show one glowing eye. That eye

00:15:34 --> 00:15:37 may be a young star still wrapped in dust.

00:15:37 --> 00:15:40 Hubble shows a bright rim where ultraviolet

00:15:40 --> 00:15:43 light is boiling the pillar away. And

00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 Webb's infrared sees through to the structure

00:15:45 --> 00:15:46 and the stars inside.

00:15:47 --> 00:15:49 Anna: So that's two cats today

00:15:49 --> 00:15:51 Avery: to catch one honest

00:15:51 --> 00:15:52 note.

00:15:52 --> 00:15:55 These are image releases, not new research

00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 papers. And Chandra's X ray data were

00:15:58 --> 00:16:00 actually taken in 2008. They're

00:16:00 --> 00:16:03 beautiful, but they're not discoveries.

00:16:04 --> 00:16:05 Anna: And the hemisphere?

00:16:05 --> 00:16:08 Avery: Ours. The Carina Nebula sits at

00:16:08 --> 00:16:11 about 60 degrees south from Sydney.

00:16:11 --> 00:16:14 It never sets. From Los Angeles, New York

00:16:14 --> 00:16:17 and London. It never rises. So,

00:16:17 --> 00:16:19 northern listeners, this one's for the

00:16:19 --> 00:16:20 photos.

00:16:20 --> 00:16:22 Anna: Quick hits. First, a, uh, spacewalk

00:16:23 --> 00:16:26 on Thursday. NASA's Ano Menon and the

00:16:26 --> 00:16:29 Canadian Space Agency's Joshua Kutryk spent

00:16:29 --> 00:16:31 seven hours and 11 minutes outside the space

00:16:31 --> 00:16:33 station and um, installed the seventh of

00:16:33 --> 00:16:36 eight rollout solar arrays. Once released,

00:16:36 --> 00:16:39 it unrolled to about 18 metres in roughly 10

00:16:39 --> 00:16:41 minutes with no motors, driven by energy

00:16:41 --> 00:16:43 stored in its carbon fibre booms.

00:16:43 --> 00:16:45 Avery: And um, it was Ku Trick's first,

00:16:45 --> 00:16:48 Anna: his first spacewalk, the fifth ever by a

00:16:48 --> 00:16:51 Canadian and the first by a Canadian since

00:16:51 --> 00:16:53 2019. He arrived on Crew 13

00:16:54 --> 00:16:56 which we followed through all those delays,

00:16:56 --> 00:16:59 so it's good to see it pay off. NASA

00:16:59 --> 00:17:01 counts it as US spacewalk number 100. At the

00:17:01 --> 00:17:04 station the eighth and final array goes up on

00:17:04 --> 00:17:07 5 November. Next up,

00:17:07 --> 00:17:10 Reid Wiseman, who commanded Artemis 2

00:17:10 --> 00:17:13 around the Moon in April, has a new job

00:17:13 --> 00:17:15 from the 30th of November.

00:17:15 --> 00:17:17 He'll be Deputy Director of NASA's Jet

00:17:17 --> 00:17:20 Propulsion Laboratory and an associate vice

00:17:20 --> 00:17:22 president at Caltech

00:17:22 --> 00:17:23 Avery: and, um, Swift

00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 Anna: still in orbit as we record. NASA

00:17:27 --> 00:17:29 expects the old Gamma Ray Observatory to re

00:17:29 --> 00:17:31 enter within weeks. We'll tell you when it

00:17:31 --> 00:17:32 happens.

00:17:32 --> 00:17:35 And Starship Flight 15 is still targeted for

00:17:35 --> 00:17:38 November, with SpaceX aiming to catch both

00:17:38 --> 00:17:40 the booster and the ship. We'll believe the

00:17:40 --> 00:17:42 date once SpaceX announces it.

00:17:42 --> 00:17:45 Avery: Time for the sky. First, a, uh, clock

00:17:45 --> 00:17:47 node for everyone listening across time

00:17:47 --> 00:17:50 zones. Daylight saving ends in the United

00:17:50 --> 00:17:52 States at 2am this Sunday, 1st

00:17:52 --> 00:17:53 November.

00:17:53 --> 00:17:56 London already changed last weekend, so from

00:17:56 --> 00:17:59 Sunday, Sydney is 16 hours ahead of New

00:17:59 --> 00:18:01 York and 19 ahead of Los Angeles.

00:18:02 --> 00:18:05 Let's start in the evening. Saturn is

00:18:05 --> 00:18:08 the evening planet 45 minutes

00:18:08 --> 00:18:11 after sunset on Saturday. It's about 37

00:18:11 --> 00:18:14 degrees up in the northeast from Sydney and

00:18:14 --> 00:18:16 in the east, about 24 from Los Angeles,

00:18:17 --> 00:18:20 20 from New York and 13 from London.

00:18:20 --> 00:18:22 Even a small telescope shows the rings.

00:18:23 --> 00:18:24 Avery: What happened to Mercury?

00:18:25 --> 00:18:27 Avery: Gone for now. It's heading between

00:18:28 --> 00:18:30 us and the sun and has dropped below the

00:18:30 --> 00:18:32 horizon at dusk. Everywhere.

00:18:33 --> 00:18:36 Venus has just made the same crossing and

00:18:36 --> 00:18:38 is now coming up in the morning.

00:18:39 --> 00:18:42 It's low, only about 4 degrees up,

00:18:42 --> 00:18:44 half an hour before sunrise from all four

00:18:44 --> 00:18:47 cities. But it's bright and climbing a

00:18:47 --> 00:18:48 little higher each morning.

00:18:48 --> 00:18:51 Anna: And the morning sky is where the action is.

00:18:51 --> 00:18:54 Avery: It is, and it favours the north.

00:18:55 --> 00:18:57 Mars and Jupiter are drawing together.

00:18:57 --> 00:18:59 They're about six and a half degrees apart

00:18:59 --> 00:19:02 today, about four by the 6th of

00:19:02 --> 00:19:04 November and just over one degree apart by

00:19:04 --> 00:19:07 the 16th, half an hour before

00:19:07 --> 00:19:10 sunrise. They're roughly 60 to 70

00:19:10 --> 00:19:13 degrees up from Los Angeles and New York and

00:19:13 --> 00:19:16 over 50 from London. From Sydney,

00:19:16 --> 00:19:18 they're about 30 degrees up in the northeast,

00:19:19 --> 00:19:20 lower but, uh, easy to see.

00:19:21 --> 00:19:21 Avery: And

00:19:21 --> 00:19:22 Anna: the Moon joins them.

00:19:22 --> 00:19:25 Avery: The waning moon passes Pollux on the night of

00:19:25 --> 00:19:28 the 31st, then slides past Mars and

00:19:28 --> 00:19:30 Jupiter around the 2nd and 3rd of November,

00:19:31 --> 00:19:33 and the bright star Regulus around the 3rd

00:19:33 --> 00:19:35 and 4th. Depending on your time zone,

00:19:36 --> 00:19:38 those are close passes under a degree for

00:19:38 --> 00:19:40 Jupiter and Regulus as seen from Earth's

00:19:40 --> 00:19:43 centre. So the exact spacing depends on where

00:19:43 --> 00:19:46 you are. Last quarter is on the 1st of

00:19:46 --> 00:19:49 November in the Americas and the 2nd in

00:19:49 --> 00:19:49 Australia.

00:19:50 --> 00:19:51 Anna: Meteors?

00:19:52 --> 00:19:54 Avery: The southern Taurids peak around the 4th and

00:19:54 --> 00:19:56 5th of November. They're slow,

00:19:57 --> 00:20:00 sometimes bright, never many maybe five

00:20:00 --> 00:20:02 an hour at 1am the radiant in

00:20:02 --> 00:20:05 Taurus is about 40 degrees up from Sydney and

00:20:05 --> 00:20:07 um, 60 to 70 from the northern cities.

00:20:08 --> 00:20:10 The Moon is a waning crescent and rises late,

00:20:10 --> 00:20:11 which helps

00:20:12 --> 00:20:13 Anna: and for the South

00:20:14 --> 00:20:17 Avery: Carina if our ghost segment made you

00:20:17 --> 00:20:20 curious, the Carina Nebula never sets from

00:20:20 --> 00:20:21 Sydney in the evening.

00:20:21 --> 00:20:24 It skims only about 5 degrees above the

00:20:24 --> 00:20:26 southern horizon, but by 4am it's over

00:20:26 --> 00:20:28 35 degrees up in the southeast.

00:20:29 --> 00:20:31 Binoculars show it clearly from a dark site.

00:20:32 --> 00:20:34 Beta Pictoris climbs through the night and is

00:20:34 --> 00:20:37 about 73 degrees high around 4am you

00:20:37 --> 00:20:39 won't see the tail, but you can see the star

00:20:39 --> 00:20:40 Anna: and looking ahead.

00:20:41 --> 00:20:43 Avery: Uranus reaches opposition in late November

00:20:43 --> 00:20:46 and Voyager 1 crosses one light day on the

00:20:46 --> 00:20:49 18th, though you won't see that one.

00:20:49 --> 00:20:51 Anna: And the standing reminder

00:20:52 --> 00:20:54 Avery: Never look at the sun directly or through

00:20:54 --> 00:20:57 binoculars or a telescope without a proper

00:20:57 --> 00:21:00 solar filter or any solar viewing.

00:21:00 --> 00:21:02 Use glasses or filters that meet the ISO

00:21:03 --> 00:21:06 123122 safety standard

00:21:06 --> 00:21:08 and check them for damage before you use

00:21:08 --> 00:21:08 them.

00:21:08 --> 00:21:11 Anna: That's the show for Friday. A 4 billion

00:21:11 --> 00:21:14 year old piece of Mars dated with two clocks.

00:21:14 --> 00:21:17 Voyager 1 coming back from two days of

00:21:17 --> 00:21:20 silence, a collision between two Pluto sized

00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 worlds, two ghosts in Carina and a ah,

00:21:22 --> 00:21:24 Canadian's first spacewalk.

00:21:25 --> 00:21:27 Avery: Tomorrow is the weekend wrap, so if you

00:21:27 --> 00:21:29 missed anything this week, we'll catch you

00:21:29 --> 00:21:29 up.

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00:21:42 --> 00:21:44 Avery: And if you're trick or treating this weekend

00:21:44 --> 00:21:46 or watching spring storms in the south

00:21:47 --> 00:21:48 look up once in a while.

00:21:48 --> 00:21:49 I'm Avery.

00:21:49 --> 00:21:52 Anna: And I'm Anna. Clear skies everyone.